2021年4月13日星期二

Those high-rise buildings in China to the years, who will demolish, the cost of demolition is so high, how to do?

 CNMOULDING discuss some bits and pieces of life with you.



1. there is profit space to increase the volume ratio?


No way.
Now the standard residential design, residential 3 meters per floor exactly not more than 100 meters, more than 100 meters part of the money is not very cost-effective. With the exception of a few special cases, such as Beijing, where houses are generally shorter (more than 50 meters), Shenzhen and Chongqing buildings are particularly high (200 meters), most cities are dominated by 100 meters high residential areas.
At present, in Beijing, Shanghai and even all over the country, the demolition of bungalows is the mainstream, demolition of tall buildings is a very small proportion. For example, the Beijing Temple of Heaven shed reform, the original return to the owners to "expand the area ", otherwise it is difficult to remove the movement. As house prices rise, the higher the house price, the more difficult it is to demolish, so that even bungalows can not be demolished.
You can go to see Beijing's Wuli Tuo, which from a year ago began demolition, to now only a part of the deal. Our office in Shanghai was originally in Huangpu District, below is a collection area. The levy began in 2015 and had not been dismantled by 2018. The bungalow is so difficult to demolish, let alone the building?
This is the case today. What about the future? It will only be harder!
If this is considered over decades, the population problem may not support increasing profits by increasing the volume ratio. So, first, the volume rate bottleneck has been reached, second, the government is unwilling to demolish tall buildings now, and third, the future profit space will be further compressed. In short, there is no profit space, when the time to remove is unlikely.




2. let developers pay?


No way.
The design standard of building a life of our national residence is 50 years, the warranty period of the main structure is consistent with the design standard of building life, that is, the owner is responsible for the main structural problem for more than 50 years. I hope you find out, now is the market economy is not planned economy, you bought commercial housing developers are not your "unit ", the house is your own, of course, you are responsible for maintenance.
For example, the main structural problem is not only the building shell on the ground but also the foundation. In 50 years, if the foundation goes wrong, it will be strengthened at a cost of tens of millions (now) a building. Even so, if it can be strengthened, it may be cheaper than dismantling and rebuilding, depending on the specific plan.
Who should pay this money? If I were a developer,50 years later you suddenly changed the law and asked me to pay the bill, I promise to receive a message 10 years in advance to move an old and young family abroad.
What is the strategy of domestic developers in recent years?
They sold the house to the people while they were working hard, and they put money overseas. The house is so good now why developers do not buy their own house, a batch of foreign houses. Domestic house is so good, so there is room for appreciation, why go abroad to buy those need to pay property tax house?
Finally, how much probability do you think the developers you buy, or the sense of social responsibility, will fly back to save the small owners after 50 years?

3. owners to protect the rights of the government attention?


No way.
Some say the government will not tolerate the disrepair of many old buildings in the city. I mean, just build something to keep them out of sight? Nanjing Confucius Temple demolition, in order not to let tourists notice the demolition of the building, the demolition side found a few cars to seal the intersection. From a world perspective, face engineering is not original in China. After all, spend little money and do a lot of things.
Now government demolition is good, land finance. In fact, some of the so-called "dangerous houses" are not dangerous houses, just for the land to install a dangerous house or shantytown title. Because the 2011 levy limits the type of demolition
But now the real dangerous houses are mostly in the warranty period, the government can use various means to force developers, construction parties to solve, a small number of self-built houses do exist security risks the government can cover the bottom.
As mentioned earlier, now there is a trend of demolition and demolition, and in the next 30 years, a large number of concentrated construction of commercial housing areas when there are problems is not a matter of two residential areas. No matter how to protect the rights of finance also has no ability to cover all. In accordance with the provisions of the law and predict future policy trends, so that owners themselves more international practice.

4. the owner pay for the repair?




It's not impossible. Hard.
Heard that the Chinese are scattered sand this sentence? Because of the defects of the property system in our country at present,85% of the residential areas have no industry committee, and it is difficult to operate normally. China's residential area is very large, beyond the reasonable boundary of collective action, the cost of cooperation is greater than the individual income, the collective tends to wait and see in situ. Without special factors, a high probability is impossible.
The vacancy rate of most residential areas is relatively high, and one can not be ignored is the high rental rate. Beijing lot good community, rental rate can be up to 20%,30%. That is to say, do not consider the problem of vacancy, a third of the owners do not live in the community.
Weihai, Shandong, such seaside cities to travel, can use the residential app to find local residential areas, to see where almost no owners live in the community is like. That is Beijing, northeast of the owners of hot-headed buy houses, such a community now that the elevator is broken no one cares, after the foundation problems how can everyone pay?
The problem of owners raising funds is not whether a single owner pays, but must be someone who does not pay or simply can not contact. This is not too small and uneven, it is impossible for 30 people to pay 100 people, so it is not realistic to expect owners to pay their own annual "maintenance" of the house.
Although there is a public maintenance fund when buying a house because there is generally no industry committee, the maintenance fund is not supervised by the construction committee account, and the property company can dispose of the money almost unrestricted. The problem is likely to be a bad one for decades when you really want to overhaul. There is also inflation.
Others say that the property tax to take part in the house repair, this is not realistic, the government took 70 years of land transfer gold is not used to repair the house, why the property tax to repair the house? The government is solving the public part, now the financial burden is so heavy, all pointing to the owner to save. Owners pay for the government to repair the road debt is not finished, how does the government pay for the owners to repair the house?

5. house lives hundreds of years?


At this point, I particularly believe in "made in China ".
Because now the owner is shrewd, when the house is closed with the surveyor, the floor empty drum this kind of knock to know the small fault can not be confusing, so the problem is in the "invisible" place.
There is no problem with the place you see, and the other side is that the invisible place is more or less problematic.
The construction is subcontracted layer by layer. Conscience is half of the industry people say yes, and half say no, do you think there is? If a first-tier city is formal, what about the third and fourth lines? A large real estate developer in a western city, the foundation is loess needs to be strengthened, the reinforcement project is wrapped to the construction team in the nearby village, the construction team takes local materials, the local rich loess is poured down to do the reinforcement. Now 19# building maximum tilt 30 cm, such a house sold in the local boom, house prices have doubled.
Made in China like this,50 years has become a problem. If something goes wrong in 50 years, at least not beyond the warranty period, but the developer will run early. If you exceed the warranty, you don't have to run.

Is the top a future slum?


I think I'm right! Most of those who say this is from a global perspective and most of those who oppose it are in the context of rising house prices in China. This is the final summary of the topic.

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